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  1. Reloadron
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    Reloadron Contributing Member

    I know several users here are using QuickLoad software and I have done some reading on the software. I did check out a few reviews including QuickLOAD Review at 6mm BR. I can appreciate that much ballistic data tin be calculated using readily available formulas.

    What has me curious is how QuickLoad calculates chamber pressure? Brusk of instrumentating a barrel with a strain judge or pizeo transducer and only using the user input how does it calculate sleeping accommodation pressure level? If bedroom pressure can exist calculated using a number of known information then why using the elaborate systems we use? Again, I tin appreciate the numbers QuickLoad produces are subject area to some error as chamber pressure has and then many variables. I am just curious how authentic the software is?

    For example the Lyman 49th Edition (and others) list sleeping room pressures for a good many loads expressed in Loving cup or PSI. Keeping in mind the numbers were a upshot of examination performed on a bench with their exam butt. The results for any given load will vary test barrel to test barrel. If I were to input the load data for a specific load into QuickLoad how close would the QuickLoad data exist to the published Lyman data?

    Then my question for those familiar with QuickLoad is how credible are the sleeping accommodation pressure numbers and does anyone have a clue how those numbers are derived? I have no trouble plopping down $150 or and then for the software I am just existent curious how it calculates bedroom pressure.

    My questioning here is a outcome of some other thread and I didn't want to drag the other thread off topic.

    Thanks
    Ron

  2. How much does it price (QL)? I know not totally on topic, merely information technology's more on topic than it would have been in the other thread hopefully..

    How would nosotros know if the pressure readings are even right is what Im kind of wondering..

  3. Engineers have been computing pressure in force per unit area vessels for years why would this be any different? A cartridge is simply a pressure level vessel?
  4. You need a multi-parameter called-for model of the pulverization existence used.
    Later that it is standard time stepped engineering calculations for a pressure vessel with a variable size.
    If you farther accommodate the model based on a strain estimate yous tin become very accurate predicti0ns.
  5. As a matter of interest I have just plugged in some load data for local powders. I know they utilize the Piezo strain approximate just they only simply the speeds per load. For this given load the load tables predict 2 616fps and when simulated in QL, QL gives 2 602fps.
  6. One thing I must mention is that a given powder reacts differently nether unlike conditions according to QL. Then the same powder in a six.5mm case does Non burn the same as in a .375 case. Powder also burns differently at different pressures and then a full case reacts differently to an case with less powder.

    So when using Quickload i must take this into consideration. This is why we calibrate the burn charge per unit which takes into consideration theses sometimes non and then subtle differences. So when loading you have to found a burn rate for a gear up of components at a specific speed.

  7. The engineering staff of the consulting firm I work for (function fourth dimension) accept made several comparisons of existent pressures and QL and found that QL predictions for bottleneck rifle calibers are remarkably close and consistent. Oftentimes moreso than information provided by MSMD loading manuals.
  8. QL is making a prediction: a theoretical estimate based on calculations.

    Such estimates will seldom be every bit authentic as measurements in instrumented barrels, but they are improve than guesses.

  9. I judge you lot were referring to what I said..I'm just proverb we ("we" as in your everyday handloader) dont really have a manner to double bank check a pressure reading.

    I guess you may exist saying it's probably not necessary to check since it's not that great of a mystery..?

    Anywho, I'one thousand checking out of this thread, I'll just get in the fashion, one last thing though, how much does the software price? Or is information technology like a free download (yea right) or what?

  10. $152.95 Read more here

    FWIW, The formulas used are much more accurate for bottleneck cartridges than for straight wall cartridges. The developer knows this and the program is weighted to err on the conservative side for straightwall cartridges.

  11. Thanks. Would've googled just wanted to be certain information technology was the i that everyone talks about and non a knockoff.
  12. QuickLoad

    If the information you enter into "QuackLoad" is not right, things may become very wrong. Almost - http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=552791

  13. You always seem to find the worst case scenario to put upwardly every bit an example. Why so pessimistic? For every major trouble caused by user mistake there are probably hundreds of successes.
  14. As JRH6856 said, the results QL produces for bottleneck cartridges are notably more accurate than the straight-walled ones. Bummer because most of my current arsenal utilizes direct-wall cartridges... nonetheless, QL is nonetheless usable for them.

    I do wish they provided powder profile updates for QL even if it costs coin, a few powders I take aren't in the database...

    In my opinion, QuickLoad is just another tool to take for the reloader who enjoys such things. I have it and although I don't use information technology frequently, it was definitely worth the cost if merely to satisfy the scientist in me.

  15. Reloadron
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    Reloadron Contributing Fellow member

    Andrew, again many thanks for the electronic mail and data yous were kind enough to send me. Informative and interesting stuff this Quick Load is.

    I have looked at the software on and off for simply over a year or so. Obviously since information technology started being sold on 3.5" floppy disk it has been around awhile. I don't have a problem popping a buck and a half for decent software that does something. Being finally retired I have the time to do what I desire to do and stuff like this has always fascinated me.

    I realize the sleeping room pressures won't exist dead on, that is a given due to all the variables. Just wondering how close they become. Matter of fact as an example hither is what I am getting at. The subject field of Gratis Energy Recoil has come up numerous times in the forum. Ofttimes guys will requite a link or two to any of a half dozen or more online calculators. Got me curious and so I went to several online calculators and got several different answers to the same input data. So? Who is lying and who is telling the truth and how much does the difference matter? The reason dissimilar online calculators give dissimilar results is obvious, they don't all process the data input in the same style.

    Again, many cheers for those who have contributed so far. I appreciate your time.

    Ron

  16. "...how QuickLoad calculates chamber pressure?..." Programmer magic. Far too many variables for whatever computer program to cover 'em all. Non many programmers really shoot either.
  17. And probably not many shooters know much about programming. Those that practice both might have a leg up. ;)
  18. Reloadron
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    Reloadron Contributing Member

    :) Yeah and that tin make for difficult programming or a plan that actually works.

    While I was never a developer type my career kept me around plenty and I did write a few program routines, mostly for data acquisition of pressures, temperatures and menses rates. However, if I e'er had to rely on my programming skills to eat I would take starved to decease years ago or been found broke and urinating in gutters. :)

    What I really detect interesting with sleeping accommodation pressures isn't merely the peak pressure but looking at the unabridged pressure curve and the expanse under the curve. Considering all the variables just gets interesting and at present that I have the time I want to get more than into it.

    This is why the interest in QuickLoad and other things like strain gauges. I would dear to get into Charge Mode Conformal Ballistic Sensors but if I were to pop a few one thousand there are yet guns out there I would like to have. :)

    Ron

  19. No matter which QL thread I postal service on (numerous forums), people take difficulty in believing the output, yet will believe published load information without question, notwithstanding the fact that in QL you can tweak for all the parameters that published load data does not allow for. I have no event with published load information and volition at times nonetheless use this equally a start point for QL.

    QL works, it correlates closely to standard load tables merely allows y'all the power to move loads upwardly and down to encounter specific barrel times, it allows you to simulate powders earlier buying them and wasting money, the aforementioned for bullets. It allows yous to develop accurate loads with the minimal wastage of components.

    The other affair that QL does it that it teaches you lot about internal ballistics, the ability to alter criteria in real fourth dimension allows one to real fourth dimension effects, this added greatly to my understanding of what affects what and by how much.

    Is QL perfect, NO. Is QL amend than conventional load tables, IMO significantly. Does QL add a new dimension to your loading, most definitely. Is QL worth the cost, I suppose but the buyer can tell. The more calibres you load the more you tin can justify the expense.

    Download the demo, I think it has three calibres you can play with?
    http://www.neconos.com/details3.htm

    QL is in a league of its own, you can even design your ain wildcat cartridges, calculate recoil for each load, print and save data, store specific rifle data, and numerous other features I have yet to explore. Here is a full review from 6mmBR.
    http://www.6mmbr.com/quickload.html

    @Sunray. The bloke that designed the plan is a Mechanical Engineer and a bench rest shooter.

    A closing point. QL is not a miracle program where you plug in numbers and it spits out a magic load. Y'all even so demand to take the normal care that you lot would with any reloading, building you load from low pressure. What QL does allow is for you to become there quicker and safer. Most QL users I know take not studied the comprehensive user guide and but do NOT use QL correctly, I suspect that many of the naysayers on forums are no different. There is a specific process to exist followed so if whatever here opt to purchase QL then please follow the user guide.

  20. That shouldn't exist that big of a surprise, IMO.

    You seem to exist very sensitive nearly it, starting in post 3 in this thread.

    And Im not trying to pick a fight, I didn't realize information technology was a sore spot.

  21. Reloadron
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    Reloadron Contributing Fellow member

    I believe when it comes to QuickLoad the software itself is merely a tool the paw loader can use to their advantage or cull not to apply.

    Andrew likes and uses QuickLoad and evidently is very familiar and comfortable using information technology. Simply put, it works for him. Granted, many of u.s.a. were loading our ammunition long before a estimator or software programs figured into the game but like whatever proficient tool it doesn't injure to have. Some hand loaders thrive on stuff like QuickLoad and others want nix to do with it.

    Me? I am just curious about the software and want to learn more about it. Get some opinions about information technology. That is what I had in heed when I started this thread.

    Ron

  22. I suppose a disclaimer would be in order. I have no vested interest in the promotion or the sale of QL software, I am however a satisfied QL user.

    Potatohead, not sensitive, rather frustrated. I idea that I would lay my stall out early having sat on both sides of the fence.

    I accept spent hours on the net trying to aid people who have bought QL as a quick gear up which it is not. These users tend to be the most disquisitional of the production but fail to appreciate that if y'all practise non have the basic foundations of working up you ain loads safely, QL will be a little beyond you. QL for me is aimed at a reasonably seasoned hand loader every bit you need to have a off-white bargain of loading experience to maximise the use of the software.

    I started loading using Standard Load Tables and I had partial success, I then gravitated to Dan Newberry's OCW load evolution routine with more success and now the next stage of my loading development is QL. I would abet each method to anyone based on your means, experience and ability.

    My background as a QL user actually comes from variable local powders (we accept none to extremely limited Us powders here). Nosotros accept 12 powders bachelor to u.s.a., all from one manufacturer. We take about 7/8 rifle cartridge powders to choose from of which many a hand loader hither will tell you, can vary significantly in burn rate. Additionally we take severe limitations in the quantity of powder we may keep at any point in time so we hardly get used to a load and the batch is depleted. The side by side batch of powder could be significantly hotter or colder, my shooting friends and I find QL especially useful when seamlessly irresolute from batch to batch. three shots over the Chrony, recalibrate the burn rate for the new batch and you are good to become.

    I did not encounter you lot equally picking a fight and yes, it is probably a sore bespeak given my experiences here (S.A.).

    Last edited: October 12, 2014
  23. Anything that goes against the mainstream or challenges old, established ideas is going to run across resistance and criticism. We meet it in every "Glock vs 1911" or "revolver vs. semi-automobile" thread.

    With the pulverisation shortage, I often find the only powders I tin go are not listed in any manual for the cartridge I want to load. I utilise QL to give me whatsoever idea of how the available powders might work. Instance: Hodgdon'south data doesn't list W748 for 6.8SPC at all, only QL said it should be really good, and it has been. But I really demand to get a chrony to make the best use of the program.

  24. gene so

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    Hello,

    I hope you won't mind my "two cents worth' on the QL result. I propose yous call Ed Dillon at NECO since he can provide you with stated facts concerning the pressure upshot. He can give you the real info as opposed to conjecture.

    My work with QL has been satisfying in making the leap from projected estimator information to real live usage with a rifle and chronograph. Perchance I was unique to using this programme. I read all the reviews of it on the Internet and took notes and refer to them in calculation exact specs to the QL formulations. I thoroughly read the 120 page documentation that comes with the software and highlighted items of particular interest to me. As result I saved the toll of the software program the very first time I used it. i was developing loads for a mutiny formed from shortened .308 brass. I started with 5 bullets and seven powders and after QL applications ended upwardly testing simply 3 of the powders. I found a "sweet spot" rather chop-chop, tried many other combinations and returned to the original all-time load; saving a fair amount of time and coin since I am pretty darn picky as to what I want shot in my rifles.

    The single matter I have a problem with in this program is this. Primer specifications. As you lot know, different primers have different burning rates.some hotter, some libation and more even in shot to shot uniformity as to velocity. With the wildcat contumely I form I can obtain both small and large primer sizes in cases. That can show obviously when chronographing. QL doesn't seem to differentiate on this upshot and information technology is the single "nit picky" matter I would modify in an otherwise really special fourth dimension saving ballistics program.

    Thanks

    Gene So

  25. Fair enough, and understandable.
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